Industry Misinterpretations http://www.industry-misinterpretations.cincomsmalltalk.com Cincom Product Manager jrobertson@cincom.com Mon, 05 May 2008 09:56:50 EDT http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/images/cst_podcast300x300.png Industry Misinterpretations http://www.industry-misinterpretations.cincomsmalltalk.com 300 300 no Industry Misinterpretations James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations with James Robertson, Michael Lucas-Smith, Dave Buck, and whatever guest(s) they can convince to come on. A weekly show about Smalltalk and dynamic language stuff en-us James Robertson jrobertson@cincom.com James A. Robertson Copyright 2007 Cincom Systems, Inc. 2008-05-05T09:56:50-04:00 39.214103 -76.878807 Industry Misinterpretations 86: Newspeak? http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_86:_Newspeak&entry=3387388940 podcast Sun, 04 May 2008 21:22:20 EDT

This week we had a very full set of news, Smalltalk and otherwise. We discussed:

  • The Newspeak video with Gilad Bracha
  • The Smalltalk Solutions schedule
  • The Release of a new Seaside book
  • Microsoft Mesh
  • Twitter troubles
  • Clutter
  • The recent SQL injection attacks
  • Gemstone and Ruby

It's a pretty packed conversation :) As always, send feedback to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com - or visit us on Facebook, Ning, and iTunes. You can also vote for the podcast at Podcast Alley.

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]]> 3387388940 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIPBServlet?guid=3387388940 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?guid=3387388940 no James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 86: Newspeak? James, Michael, and David discuss Newspeak, Smalltalk Solutions, the new Seaside book, and a raft of other news. 43:26 smalltalk, dynamic, ruby, seaside, glass, smalltalk solutions, twitter nonadult James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 86: Newspeak? http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIServlet?guid=3387388940 Industry Misinterpretations 85: What's New in Cincom Smalltalk http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_85:_Whats_New_in_Cincom_Smalltalk&entry=3386693938 podcast Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:18:58 EDT

This week we have a rundown of what's new in the latest release of Cincom Smalltalk, which just officially shipped last week. We also included a chat we had with Mark Grinnell during the planning meeting a week ago, on the process we went through for the Vista Certification of ObjectStudio 8.

The discussion of new stuff in the product went long enough that we didn't get to industry news (or even much else in Smalltalk news - we'll hit those next week. If you have feedback, you can always send it to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com - or visit us on Facebook, iTunes, or Ning. You can also cast a vote for the podcast over at Podcast Alley.

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]]> 3386693938 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIPBServlet?guid=3386693938 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?guid=3386693938 no James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 85: What's New in Cincom Smalltalk James, Michael, and David discuss the new features in Cincom Smalltalk, which was just released. We also included an interview with Mark Grinnell, where we discussed the process of Vista Certification for ObjectStudio 8 47:17 smalltalk, dynamic, visualworks, objectstudio, objectstudio8, cincom smalltalk, vista nonadult James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 85: What's New in Cincom Smalltalk http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIServlet?guid=3386693938 Industry Misinterpretations 84: Who Says We're Not Organized http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_84:_Who_Says_Were_Not_Organized&entry=3386136854 podcast Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:34:14 EDT

This week we decided to try some organization. The podcast has a number of segments:

  • Smalltalk News, with James, David, and Michael
  • Seaside News, with James, David and Michael
  • Industry News, with James, David, and Michael
  • James interviews Kimberly Thomas and Deanna Simpson from Cincom Smalltalk support

The whole thing ran pretty smoothly, and we intend to use this kind of format from here on out. If you have comments or concerns, please send them to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com. You can also subscribe on iTunes, or vote for the podcast at Podcast Alley. We also have pages on Facebook and Ning.

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]]> 3386136854 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIPBServlet?guid=3386136854 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?guid=3386136854 blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_84:_Who_Says_Were_Not_Organized&entry=3386136854 blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_84:_Who_Says_Were_Not_Organized&entry=3386136854 Pete F 2008-04-21T09:20:06-04:00 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>structure?&nbsp; -hells bells, I&nbsp;thought you were the java posse for a minute there&nbsp; (i guess it removes the need for a meta theme, which sometimes sounds a bit forced)</p> <p>The&nbsp;segment on cincom support came off sounding rather "patsy" -also, while your customers may want to be dumping flat files and pushing them to web servers&nbsp; -i figure technology companies need to do better</p> <p>imho you need to show that your products and people are capable of getting companies safely but seriously wired into the net</p> <p>Pete F</p> </div> structure no James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 84: Who Says We're Not Organized? James, Michael, and David run down the Smalltalk and Industry News, and riff off that for awhile. James interviews Kimberly Thomas and Deanna Simpson from Cincom Smalltalk Support. 34:00 smalltalk, dynamic, IT, seaside, cincom smalltalk, objectstudio nonadult James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 84: Who Says We're Not Organized? http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIServlet?guid=3386136854 Industry Misinterpretations 83: Peter Deutsch at SPA 2008 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_83:_Peter_Deutsch_at_SPA_2008&entry=3385452868 podcast Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:28 EDT

This week's podcast is another keynote from SPA 2008: Peter Deutsch's talk on his experience (50 years worth) in software development. This was recorded on March 18, 2008 at the conference - I posted the video of the same talk here.

If you have feedback, please send it to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com - or visit us on Facebook, Ning, or iTunes - and please cast a vote on Podcast Alley.

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On this week's podcast, we talked about how developers go about learning code they aren't familiar with - and how the approaches differ in Smalltalk and other languages. From there we rambled into static/dynamic typing some before wrapping up on the core topic.

If you have feedback, please send it to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com - or visit us on iTunes, Facebook, or Ning. And don't forget to cast a vote for the podcast on Podcast Alley!

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]]> 3384872166 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIPBServlet?guid=3384872166 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?guid=3384872166 no James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 82: Comprehending Code James, Michael, and David discuss how developers approach learning a codebase in Smalltalk, and how that differs from the approaches taken in other languages A brief discussion of static and dynamic typing fell out of that as well. 39:49 smalltalk, dynamic, IT, dynamic typing, static typing nonadult James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 82: Comprehending Code http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIServlet?guid=3384872166 Industry Misinterpretations 81: WikiWiki http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_81:_WikiWiki&entry=3384371378 podcast Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:09:38 EST

This week, we spoke to Ward Cunningham, the guy who invented the Wiki. That's hardly his only contribution though; Ward was also one of the gang that came up with what we now know as XP.

It was a wide ranging conversation, covering Ward's Smalltalk background, his thoughts on software development and languages, as well as talk about Wikis and design. We also touched briefly on Ward's latest gig, aboutus.org.

As always, if you have feedback, please send it to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com. You can also subscribe with iTunes, visit us on Facebook or Ning, and - please head on over to Podcast Alley and cast a vote for us.

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]]> 3384371378 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIPBServlet?guid=3384371378 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?guid=3384371378 no James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations Episode 81: WikiWiki James, Michael, and David talk to Ward Cunningham, father of the Wiki and co-creator of eXtreme Programming 45:30 smalltalk, dynamic, IT, wiki, XP, agile, dynamic languages nonadult James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations Episode 81: WikiWiki http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIServlet?guid=3384371378 Industry Misinterpretations 80: Is Software Practice Advancing? http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_80:_Is_Software_Practice_Advancing&entry=3383656756 podcast Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:39:16 EST

This podcast is taken from the panel discussion at SPA2008: "Is Software Practice Advancing?" The panel was moderated by John Daniels, and started with a small group. After about 20 minutes, they asked volunteers from the audience to join by submitting names to a random pick - Peter Deutsch got picked first, and I followed a few minutes later. I'll also have video from this panel later on; I have to get it saved down to a reasonable size first.

It was a fun conversation, with the debate topic centered on whether things have improved in terms of software practices over the last 15 years. There was a fair amount of skepticism on the panel, and it was a lively discussion.

As always, please send feedback to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com - or visit us on Facebook or Ning. You can subscribe in iTunes, and please try and cast a vote for the podcast over at Podcast Alley. One caveat about this edition; it's long, about 74 minutes. I usually keep the episodes shorter than that, but I didn't want to break this panel discussion into parts.

]]> 3383656756 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIPBServlet?guid=3383656756 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?guid=3383656756 blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_80:_Is_Software_Practice_Advancing&entry=3383656756 blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_80:_Is_Software_Practice_Advancing&entry=3383656756 Thomas Gagne 2008-03-24T15:36:32-05:00 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>Regarding <a href="blogView?showComments=true&amp;printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_78:_This_and_That&amp;entry=3382458921">pocast #78</a>, I want to first say I would have added my comment to it, but it appears comments are closed.</p> <p>Regardless, the reason I think Smalltalk programmers may be dependent on vendors more so than other languages is the language is splintered by vendor.&nbsp; What I write for VW won't run unmodified by GNU, VA, or Squeak.&nbsp; There's no concept of a portable "library" that will work in each--unless I write it in C.&nbsp; And even there, the way each vendor's Smalltalk calls-out to C is different.</p> <p>If my single effort was to have benefits multipled by the entire community and not just my flavor I suspect there may be more and more successful community efforts.&nbsp; Because of the multiple implementations, I think Smalltalk sometimes hamstrung.</p> <p>Also, in two items I contributed personally, VW later came out with different implementations without any reference to what I had done.&nbsp; VW's were independently developed and owed nothing to me, but what VW did was different enough that code depending on my take on a problem was incompatible with what VW came up with.&nbsp; Specifically, my parcel for using standard IO and Store for Sybase.&nbsp; The latter item, I think, was another community contribution, but it was made available after my own, was unsupported by VW, but distributed.&nbsp;</p> <p>The effect on my decision to contribute to the community then becomes, why bother if what I do will be re-implemented by VW or discarded for something else?&nbsp; I may as well either wait for VW to do something or keep my inventions to myself rather than package them up to be generically installed by others.</p> </div> Regarding podcast #78 blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_80:_Is_Software_Practice_Advancing&entry=3383656756 blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_80:_Is_Software_Practice_Advancing&entry=3383656756 Thomas Gagne 2008-03-25T08:11:30-05:00 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>Regarding podcast #79 (March 17--not that long ago but comments closed), the cast was talking about code that looks at certain positions of an sequenced collection using either #first, #last, and wondering why not add #second, #third, .. #thirteenth, etc.</p> <p>I've used #second, #third, and #fourth myself grabbing result sets from a database connection before.&nbsp; I believe it's easier and more "telling" than creating a stream on the results sets and using #next, #next, #next, #next..</p> <p>Someone asked what an alternative might be, and C's scanf came to mind.&nbsp; We already have string parameter substitution to build strings, but that idea might be worth expanding to insert object into arrays (on a more general level) or to remove things from them.</p> </div> To get rid of #first, #second, #third or #at:1, #at:2... blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_80:_Is_Software_Practice_Advancing&entry=3383656756 blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_80:_Is_Software_Practice_Advancing&entry=3383656756 Thomas Gagne 2008-03-25T09:25:07-05:00 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>From his Early History of Smalltalk:</p> <blockquote> <p>"A twentieth century problem is that technology has become too "easy". When it was hard to do <em>anything</em> whether good or bad, enough time was taken so that the result was usually good. Now we can make things almost trivially, especially in software, but most of the designs are trivial as well. This is inverse vandalism: the making of things because you can. Couple this to even less sophisticated buyers and you have generated an exploitation marketplace similar to that set up for teenagers."</p> </blockquote> <p>There may be many programmers who don't know what they're doing, but we should be consoled that many of them aren't working on projects that require they know what they're doing.&nbsp; What we should be concerned about is that a lot of time and money is being spent on software vandalism that might be better spent on more productive pursuits.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> Regarding the practice of software, a quote from Alan Kay no James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 80: Is Software Practice Advancing? James Robertson joins a panel discussion at SPA 2008 on the topic: Is Software Practice Advancing? 1:14:34 smalltalk, dynamic, IT, software practice, panel discussion, software development nonadult James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 80: Is Software Practice Advancing? http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIServlet?guid=3383656756 Industry Misinterpretations 79: My Atrocity Beats Your Atrocity http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Industry_Misinterpretations_79:_My_Atrocity_Beats_Your_Atrocity&entry=3383177443 podcast Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:30:43 EST

This week we had an ad-hoc talk with Travis Griggs (after a number of technical difficulties involving bandwidth issues here at the conference hotel). Michael ended up hosting the skype chat, and the recording proceeded fine after we did that.

We ranged fairly widely, but the talk centered around API design in Smalltalk - with a few wild proposals tossed out in the form of argument by exaggeration :) It was a fun talk, and I hope you enjoy it.

As usual, if you have questions, please send them to smalltalkpodcasts@cincom.com - or visit us on Facebook or Ning. You can subscribe at iTunes, and please remember to go cast a vote for the podcast at Podcast Alley.

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]]> 3383177443 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIPBServlet?guid=3383177443 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?guid=3383177443 no James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 79: My Atrocity Beats Your Atrocity This week we talked to Travis Griggs about Smalltalk APIs - general hilarity ensued :) 37:20 smalltalk, dynamic, IT, API design nonadult James Robertson Industry Misinterpretations 79: My Atrocity Beats Your Atrocity http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/servlet/CommentAPIServlet?guid=3383177443