Seaside is to Rails as...
Gile Bowkett says that Seaside has a marketing problem (relative to Rails), and I think he's right. I do like this:
But if you play with Seaside, even just for a few hours, you quickly realize that Seaside is to Rails what Rails is to J2EE.
Oh, and Squeak isn't the only thing you can use for Seaside: Cincom Smalltalk works quite nicely as well.
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Give us a stack...
[anon] May 28, 2007 12:54:16.081
Give us an incentive to use Cincom... give us a persistence stack out of the box. I know GLORP exits... but if you said, here guys, Seaside with persistence out of the box, and I'm not even saying to an activerecord style, even EOF style where we model the db and have something similar to an eomodel, would suffice. Just something where for the brief period I don't need to think of persistence and I can just use it right away. You have all the pieces, and Alan Knight is one of your guys, so why not just throw it together (and I mean together, not saying, the pieces are there you make it work... cause if thats the case I'll just use squeak)... you're so close... once you have us, we just might be hooked.
transparent persistence stack out of the box
[] May 28, 2007 14:29:59.460
@anon http://seaside.gemstone.com/
anon
[] May 28, 2007 16:25:52.589
Gemstone ~= Cincom
Gemstone looks great and I'm really looking forward to it.. but...
Cincom has GLORP.. its there... so alternatives would be great, especially if something worked with a relational database out of the box. If you want us to try Seaside on Cincom, give us new users a compelling reason to use it and to stay.