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Branding Error

August 24, 2007 10:28:35.488

I'm not at all sure that I buy Jonathan Schwartz' reasoning on their stock ticker change - instead of SUNW, they are now JAVA. Hmm.

The question is, why? Sure, Java is well known, but in name terms, SUNW is a well known brand. Java is also pushed by other companies (IBM), so I'd make the case that doing this actually dilutes Sun's brand more than anything else. Then there's the monetary cost - re-branding exercises are not cheap. I was along for the PPS to PPD to OBJS ride, and we spent a lot of time telling people things like "Remember PPD? That's really us".

Here's his explanation:

So what's that awareness worth? Ask the question a different way - if we wanted to buy that exposure, to touch tens if not hundreds of millions of consumers every single day of the year, across nearly every continent, industry, geography and demographic - what would it cost us? (If you're in the industry, just do the CPM calculus - the Java launch experience is one of the most pervasively viewed exposures on earth.)

Here's the thing though - I'm sure my phone uses Java. Does it advertise that fact? Of course not - Verizon doesn't care whether they use Java or Fortran, and the only brand they want in front of me is theirs. When I launch the phone browser I see no Java "launch awareness" - what I see is Verizon. The same thing goes for every other Java app I run across, because I rarely see anything telling me that it's Java. Back in the late 90's - yeah, apps announced that fact. Now? Not so much.

I think Schwartz and his merry band of marketers need to get out more.

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[HKN] August 24, 2007 11:22:05.737

Sorry Jim,

look at the mobile phone vendors' and carriers' web pages and you'll see that Java is advertized as a *feature*. We may like or dislike Java but one thing cannot be disputed: it is a great marketing success. And that SUN is now trying to capitalize on it after they lost control to IBM tells me something about SUN...

Cheers

[Daniel Berger] August 24, 2007 15:23:08.037

The problem with this sort of branding is that it could create the stigma that Sun == Java in the same manner that most consumers now equate HP to printers. If that happens, it's ultimately going to have a negative effect on their other offerings.

You should pay attention

[] August 24, 2007 17:22:06.630

My carrier (Sprint) loves and promotes Java - on my device, on collateral, in signups. Your carrier, Verizon, is locked into Qualcomm's BREW model (a knock off) that keeps you beholden to one carrier, and your expectations as low as possible so you can be effectively milked. Pay attention, buddy, you're missing his point - Java's Everywhere. That matters to their future - you're probably the past he's thoughtfully retiring.

Missing my point

[ James Robertson] August 24, 2007 20:35:19.360

Comment by James Robertson

This has very little to do with technology, and a lot to do with branding.

Another Thing...

[ James Robertson] August 24, 2007 22:37:25.048

Comment by James Robertson

My wife has a Sprint phone. She's never noticed a Java logo or launch on her phone (and she's been a Sprint customer for nearly a decade). I've used her phone more than once, and I've never noticed one either. If Sprint is promoting Java, they are being pretty quiet about it.

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