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Always Remember

December 7, 2005 10:05:30.412

Like The Alamo before it, and 9/11 after it, December 7th, 1941 is a day to remember for Americans

Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941

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Me no Alamo, Me no Goliad!

[ Troy Brumley] December 7, 2005 11:15:14.000

Comment by Troy Brumley

Actually, the Goliad Massacre was closer to a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor moment than the Alamo, but sadly most people don't know much about the Texas War of Independence. When I was a boy in Texas, having moved to Texas from Ohio, I found I knew more about Texas history than native born Texans.

During the battle of San Jacinto, Mexican soldiers tried to surrender, crying "Me no Alamo! Me no Goliad!" but the Texans killed or captured over 90% of the Mexican forces, their battle cry was "Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad!"

[] December 7, 2005 12:23:23.000

Hope you'll remember August 1945, too. No offense, just a little perspective.

Yes, remember August 1945

[George Paci] December 7, 2005 13:26:46.000

Remember that the Allies made it clear that they could physically destroy an entire city in one stroke, and the Japanese military leadership still resisted surrendering for days.

I hope I never live under a government that cares that little about its people.

proximate cause

[ Troy Brumley] December 7, 2005 13:54:17.000

Comment by Troy Brumley

George is right. Remember also the Bataan Death March and other attrocities, which people forget all too readily, yet they remember interrment camps for civilians in our country.

When looking at any war, bad things happen all around, but the primary blame for cause should rest on the first offenders, imnsho.

The A-Bomb...

[ James Robertson] December 7, 2005 14:24:45.000

Comment by James Robertson

Well, what George and Troy said is very true. The fact is, there was an attempted coup after the second bombing - part of the military in Japan at that time wanted to go down in the same kind of ending that Germany had with the battle of Berlin. That coup attempt came very, very close to succeeding. See here, and here.

Of course, discussion of this topic falls under what I said here - we are still too close to this event for there to be anything like a Universally accepted consensus.

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