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April 27, 2006 15:26:29.629

Dave Winer today:

I'm participating in a discussion in Palo Alto today with a bunch of people from the web communityin the Bay Area and Senator John Edwards. The terms of the discussion are that we're allowed to acknowledge that we're at this meeting, but we're not allowed to talk about what's discussed here.

Dave Winer in 2003:

There may be another law here. It goes something like this. When you meet in private with someone else to talk about something other people are interested in, we all lose. So, for example, if Pete should go to a private meeting where something relevant to Paul is discussed, and Paul doesn't know about it, Paul's knowledge can't be applied to the process.

Private meetings are fine, I guess, so long as Winer gets invited. Otherwise, they just suck.

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[Randy Charles Morin] April 27, 2006 20:32:39.100

I'm gonna have to agree with Dave. If Winer and Edwards meet in private, then we all lose :-)

[] April 28, 2006 11:45:00.434

James,

I think it's pretty clear that Winer didn't like the policy since he went public with it.

I also suspect he wrestled with NOT going to make a statement and decided that he'd reather try to influence the course of Edwards Internet strategy than make a gesture towards openness.

I don't always agree with Dave but I do think he's dedicating himself to applying internet pecthnology towards greater democracy. He doesn't have the best skills at building good working groups but he does come up with new approaches to building communities that others have adapted and made work to greater degrees. Part of his frustration is trying to understand why they stopped or refused to work with him.

Patterns: they continue to replicte themselves and are invariantly self-similar.

Dave-Changes-the-World-Pattern: "I am your leader... hey where did everyone go?... I was leading and suddenly ------ stole all my followers and refused to give me credit for organizing the army."

McD 

Hmm

[ James Robertson] April 28, 2006 13:30:51.463

Comment by James Robertson

McD - I didn't read that into his post at all. IMHO, it's another "It's all about Dave" moment, where it's a bad thing only if he's not invited. Like the O'Reilly conferences, for instance.

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