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October 10, 2004 11:39:52.225

I've received some very nice UI changes from Reinout Heeck - a BottomFeeder user in The Netherlands. I'm pushing a new build up with all the recent changes in - the upload should be done in a few hours, and the dev links on the download page will get you the new stuff. I think I'm pretty close to a release now; if everything looks good, I'll likely push the dev stuff down to the stable download directory this week. In the meantime, I got a useful tip from Michael. A user complained that there wasn't enough of a whitespace margin surrounding images, and it turns out that you can fix that yourself, with a little stylesheet editing. Simply add this line to one of the stylesheets in the "stylesheets" directory, and the next time you start Bf up, you should see the change (assuming, of course, that you use the edited stylesheet):

img { margin: 2px }

Of course, you can slap your own stylesheets in there as well. At the moment, stylesheets are only read when BottomFeeder starts up - I suppose I should add a menu option to re-read that directory...

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[ Troy Brumley] October 10, 2004 12:01:47.236

Comment by Troy Brumley

And also select a default stylesheet that uses a sans serif font!

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[ Reinout Heeck] October 10, 2004 13:43:09.903

Comment by Reinout Heeck

I nominate the 'Lime' stylesheet as default.

No styleshheets in Mac OS X version

[Roger Whitney] October 10, 2004 20:24:38.437

The stylesheet directory is in the Mac OS X Dev version. I copied the directory from a PC version and the work. BF now is really taxing the Mac OS X VM. Resizing the BF window is really slow.

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[ Troy Brumley] October 10, 2004 21:06:58.443

Comment by Troy Brumley

Decidedly ungood news to the man who just ordered his iBook. Will I be forced to use non-VW tools for most of my RSS work?

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[ James Robertson] October 10, 2004 21:52:43.124

Comment by James Robertson

Roger,
Adding WithStyle has upped the memory requirements for Bf some...

Increased the memory but no change.

[Roger Whitney] October 11, 2004 0:26:34.582

I increased the memory settings to soft limit of 198,000,000 and a maximum limit of 396,000,000. I did not notice any change in performance. On a 1.25 GHz PowerBook with a 1GB of memory it takes 3-4 seconds for the new BF to redraw the screen when I resize the window. The first thing that I see after resizing are the scrollbars for the item pane, then I see the contents of the item pane. After a bit the rest of the window appears.

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[ James Robertson] October 11, 2004 7:27:09.457

Comment by James Robertson

Roger
Is a base 7.2.1 also slow? We are in the process of dealing with some slow performance issues on the Mac...

7.2.1 on Mac

[Roger Whitney] October 11, 2004 13:25:18.123

James,

7.2.1 runs ok on my machine. It takes less than a second to redraw a browser window full of tabs. If I pay real close attention I can almost detect the order in which widgets are redrawn. When the code is in cache, redrawing the window is much faster. While no speed demon, the performance of 7.2.1 display has not been a problem for me.

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[ Troy Brumley] October 11, 2004 15:26:19.602

Comment by Troy Brumley

Posting from my iBook, 1.2 ghz but only 256 meg of RAM. Response of most apps is wonderful, but the refresh and scroll of the text collector for a post and comments is slow--I can see it drawing out characters. Usable--barely.

Other notes:

BF directories are dorking around in my user's Applications directory. On the mac it should be in the user's home directory under a BF specific directory.
The widgets drawn on this particular window, add comments, are damaged--just the checkboxes for use spell checker and use client markup.
There don't seem to be any style sheets in this install.

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[ James Robertson] October 11, 2004 16:12:52.717

Comment by James Robertson

Troy
As to file locations - I don't have a Mac to test on, so I have no (easy) way to do that. Feel free to donate code :)

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[ Troy Brumley] October 11, 2004 19:06:02.775

Comment by Troy Brumley

I'm in a position to test, but I don't know when I'll have things set up on this machine for Smalltalk development, if ever--it's intended for other things. But, we'll see.

One behavior I noticed, which is partly my fault using the Mac touchpad, is that when I control click on an item, I forget to hold down the control key and I end up selecting the first item on the menu. This switches the view to no item list. When I think I have the view selected to include the item list again, I get a garbled display whenever I select a new item--the item text overwrites the item list--it is still using the full right side of the BF display. Can another Mac user try this?